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July 30, 2007

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Ben Edson

have you declined friendship to anyone yet? I've not...but did on behalf of my sister-in-law!

There is an interseting tension being those who are part of my social network and those who are my friends. Most of my friends are not on facebook, but they're still my friends, and alot of my friends on facebook are simply part of my networks.

i therefore think that that facebook probably says more about the 'buddy' nature of networks rather than friendships.

but it is fun!

becky garrison

I agree with Ben - I see Facebook and MySpace as social networking tools that I use to promote books, causes, share ideas, etc. Some friendships did develop from using MySpace where we now communicate off site, and I see that happening with Facebook as well. Yes, I am fully aware of the pitfalls of communicating online and have put the necessary safeguards in place.

I did interview someone for the Church Publishing book )(the book you're in) who commented how the Internet has made it possible for people to get to know each other via their minds and ideas without judging someone based on their physical attributes. She noted that in one case, the man was drop dead gorgeous and she doubted the woman would have dared approach him had they met in person - they're married with kids now. Yes, you can counter this with tons of creepy stories especially relating to minors -- I've had some friends try to use Facebook and MySpace as a dating tool with disaterous results. (I do wonder though if they were using it as a social networking tool than a way to meet guys if they might have ended up meeting men as friends and then something else could have developed down the road.)

What is interesting through over the years is that I've been able to develop closer relationships with people who have email than those who do not. This is especially true as I travel and my friends continue to leave New York City - given the changes in time zones and our respective work schedules, managing a phone call can be very tricky.

Kester

No, I've not declined anyone yet! My only rule, as yet not needed, is to decline current students at my school.

Actually, most of my 'real' friends aren't on f/b, and those that are... well, we don't really communicate much in that way.

Perhaps they need some kind of friend 'star rating' like Amazon. Or would that just be too cruel?!

Jenelle

I agree with Becky that FB/email can aid in simple relationship building, particularly when your I-miss-hugging-you friends are spread out between multiple time zones. Discretion is definitely needed in adding folks online as "amici", particularly on psychotic and tacky Myspace. FB is headed in that direction, too. But I still encouraged my global cohort @ Fuller to join FB in order to stay better connected to one another as we part ways. Once I got the hang of it (and brushed off the nonsense apps), it definitely appeals to me more than email.

Just picked up your book in Pasadena, Kester. Been looking forward to it. Will probably give it a quick blog review. Cheers.

saga

five star ratings??
i already blushed at the option of having 'top friends'
http://www.facebook.com/apps/application.php?id=2425101550

Kester

Yeah - weirdly I've just had my first 'top friend' request. Sounds like friendship creep. We'll then have 'top top friends' and then where'll it stop?!

cheryl

thanks for making me a friend! :)

few of my 'real' friends are on facebook, too - and they never read my website. i love that.

there's an option in facebook where you can list people you don't want to be able to find you on facebook. i've listed a couple of people there, because declining them would be problematic. i'm not sure how well that works, but it does calm my obsession about privacy...

becky garrison

As always Cheryl makes some very insightful points - the key as I see it is to view Facebook (and to a much lesser extent MySpace-I made some critical contacts there, so I can't dismiss it outright) as a social networking tool to exchange ideas where friendships "might" develop rather than places to make friends and get dates. I strongly encourage all my female friends not to list the year they were born and their relationship status and to block anyone they don't want contacting them. When I was in my teens and early twenties, I lacked the hindsight I have now. So I doubt many people in this age range are taking the needed precautions to safeguard themselves.

Mike Morrell

Kester, Kester...if you want to rescind our budding Facebook friendship, I completely understand! ;) But then we shall not be able to take long (in compressed time) virtual walks by the simulated sunset, pixels crunchy beneath our feet on the Web 2.0 beach!

Whence shall our Second Life be?

Kester

Mike, that sounds way too good to miss - let's continue our low-res buddydom!

becky garrison

Once again another all-male emerging church party. Thanks boys. Lovely.;)

suzanna

wow, here's something- I've had someone turn down MY friend request. I don't think I'm a creep.

FB to me is like a parlor game. A fun way to inner-act. And it does have it's unwritten social cues. If someone doesn't want to play, then that's okay.
I don't have any notoriety which would have me turning down the unknown masses. Does Brad Pitt have a FB page? I haven't checked yet.... now that would be creepy!
Does anyone think it really would replace face to face, side by side friendship?
BTW Jesus doesn't turn anyone's Friend Request ;) If we're not careful glib metaphors will abound.

becky garrison

Susanna - I had someone I knew professionally turn down a friends request. At first I went - whoa but then I realized that I saved myself a lot of headache trying to connect when it's not going to happen. I'm just now starting to really accept the fact that it's impossible for ue all to like each other - though we are required to love each but that's another post.

I doubt Brad Pitt is on Facebook - the pseudo celebrity files seem to be on MySpace. But Brian McLaren is on Facebook - does that B name count?

As a freelance writer, I see Facebook as possibly fullfilling the role of work buddies for those of us who don't have 9-5 jobs. When I need to take a break, I often check Facebook and my blog reader so I can clear my mind and then get refocused again - if I was at a regular job, I might wander over to the office kitchen to get some coffee and chat a bit. That's a vital social connection that I lost about a year and a half ago when I quit a part-time job to start writing full-time (no I'm far from rich but I don't have the time to work another gig).

Nothing replaces human contact - that's why church will always have a place in society no matter how Second Life'd we get - we receive the bread and wine together in person. Online resources such as Facebook remind me just how globally interconnected we are - I am floored when I stop and realize how many friends I have made that I wouldn't have known at all pre-Internet because we never would have connected.

Jesus didn't turn down Friends requests but he did make it clear what someone would have to do in order to be his friend (just ask the rich young man who went away hanging his head). And he did have a top Friends list as it were.

suzanna

and as you know, He commanded that we love one another (even if they refuse our 'friend' request) He says there too that we did not choose him, but He chose us! wonderful
The English bible translation uses the word stranger for 'the rich young man'

mr man

just got third way, but not read your article yet...

I'm struggling with facebook at the moment as old friends, whom i thought that i had forgotten are catching up with me! I've not got the heart to say 'no' to their friendship requests, so now I'm having to make polite conversation - this feels like confession - when i really don't want to!

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